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@dextermorgan4432 Probably our most "emo" moment in the intro of that song. I know I often tried to channel Guy Picciotto for the call and response vocal I did with Jay in the beginning (which, oddly, I didn't do for this recording). If you get the reference and you like the band, check this out: bit.ly/secretfile003

​@DerekGrantMusic The intro is a familiar sound, like normally something I'd be listening to, so the emo-ish thing makes sense now that you say it. And I wouldn't have understood what the hell you were talking about until you pointed it out. Whatever was going on in that link, though, sounds damn cool.

​@@DerekGrantMusicsorry for my music ignorance haha

@dextermorgan4432 ruclips.net/video/RxpZ_fb6B3I/видео.html

@DerekGrantMusic alright, well fuck yeah. Who wouldn't want to channel that? Sounds amazing. Now I have something else to dig into.

@UmbrellaCorp7 Well, the key is to hit certain marks while still making it your own, something I honed subbing for Josh Freese in the Vandals for a few decades. I'm a fan of both Glenn Porter and Mike Felumlee, so I've always tried to honor them and do their parts justice when playing the older songs.

@lessthanthreebrad That was my Crimson-era "lace" kit. I told Jake Cardwell at C&C about the idea for a damask pattern kit, but we weren't sure it was possible. Wrapping them with something like wallpaper or fabric would ruin the resonance of the shells, using a stencil would be clunky and messy for such an intricate design, and painting it by hand was way more work and trouble than I wanted to cause for them. I found a pattern that I liked at a fabric store - it was on a strange fabric that I swear was called "decra-sheer" - a course, fibrous upholstery material like they use for the underside of box springs or couches. I sent it to C&C as a reference and I think they were just experimenting one day and figured out that putting the fabric directly on the shell and spraying it with an adhesive dissolved the negative spaces of the material, leaving just the patterned design. They were able to find more of the same fabric, I think they cleaned out everyplace that had it. I still have the kit and I've used the kick drum occasionally, the toms are safe with a friend in Chicago. Strangely, I can't find anything about the material now - I've searched online but come up with nothing. If anyone reading this can help, please get in touch. Here's a photo from awhile back: instagram.com/p/BVxjftpg864/

@@DerekGrantMusicI’m on it gonna do some research

@user-io2rq1vf9t Here's another image of the pattern: drive.google.com/file/d/1mw91JhurJ76HeYH1SytYW5S-eq-vbRii/view?usp=sharing

​@DerekGrantMusic I'm super interested in this. I have an old kit I was about to rewrap, but now, I might do this. Do you know what adhesive they used?

@Employee00765 I contacted Jake Cardwell and he thinks it was a clear coat that caused the reaction, not an adhesive. They painted the shells (black), wrapped the material then clear coated - at least, that's what he remembers. He's going to look into it, I'll keep you updated.

@dextermorgan4432 Thanks for the kind words, and thanks for listening. Glenn is/was an originator and, as I've said many times before, it's always a blast playing his stuff.

@radioactivegirl13 Why, thank you, darlin' :)

@@DerekGrantMusic because I love your music and of course you guys 🥰

@radioactivegirl13 Well I think I can speak for everyone in the band in saying thank you and we love you too. Take care!

@@DerekGrantMusic take care you too Derek! Baci dall'Italia

@rick98765 After Agony & Irony we played everything a half step down (or full step?) for awhile, I think maybe for the sake of Matt's voice because some of the melodies on Agony were at the top of his register. It was easier to play everything in the same tuning than deal with swapping out guitars for certain songs which I think we eventually did for a bit. I don't recall when we went back to playing everything in standard tuning, it didn't really effect me performance wise other than having to adjust to singing in different keys (and having to change the pitch of the piano/string tracks which was in my jurisdiction).

@MarkSmithSJC Unfortunately I don't think there's any visual documentation of the recording, at least I don't remember anyone taking photos, certainly not video. It wasn't a feel-good session I'm afraid, I was at my lowest, deep in depression and could barely function. No one knew what to do or how to help so we just kind of soldiered through. There were some incredible moments though when we were all in a room writing the album together and we made recordings as we went, so there are some really cool early working versions of the songs at different stages of the process. Hopefully they'll be released someday.

@DerekGrantMusic I still have your stick you wanted. If you have a po box or such let me know. Hope you're doing well.

@marisolmari3672 Aww, I miss you too. I'll always be there with my brothers in spirit. Tanto amore a tutti i miei amici in Italia.

@@DerekGrantMusic Grazie Derek 🖤

@@DerekGrantMusic Damn, I guess I will have to buy another record of yours to put the Anna Maria (my mom, owner of the address) dedication incident right! xD

@supa_hot_ice5449 Probably once or twice as rental gear or backline for a fly-in date or festival. I had a falling out with DW when I left the Suicide Machines that left me disillusioned and suspicious of the motives of drum companies. I refused to play DWs or any newer drums for that matter, I literally walked into a strip-mall music store and asked if they had a used kit that I could set on fire without worrying about the loss. For the next few years I only played beat up kits or kits borrowed from other bands. That all changed around 2002 when I met Bill Cardwell and his son Jake from C&C Drums, they restored my faith in drum companies and we've worked together ever since. Great people. Great drums.

@@DerekGrantMusic Ah I see, that’s really interesting. Never heard of the two people you mentioned, are they affiliated with C&C drums?

@supa_hot_ice5449 Sorry, I should have mentioned that Bill Cardwell founded C&C Drums, he and Jake have made every one of my kits since 2002.

@@DerekGrantMusic that’s awesome. Big fan of you’re drumming by the way, been trying to learn your tracks. Settle for satin, fall victim, and prevent this tragedy are big ones for me.

@@DerekGrantMusic also, one more question, have you ever met Chad Sexton or any of the members of 311?

@crimsonpunx It would have been a 6"x14" DW Edge brass/maple snare on both this recording and the album (although we probably used several snares for the session). Top head tuned up super tight, bottom a little less-so. Probably Remo Emperor - maybe with a dot.

@Employee00765 That was the general vibe. This Boston Globe review of the show says it all: bit.ly/96avalonreview

@DerekGrantMusic I feel like if you can't even get the band's name correct, your opinion isn't worth much.

@CarpetBanana I'm sure they were great, where was the show?

@@DerekGrantMusic Richmond VA

@paulrwlnd I always mix from an audience perspective, but it never bothered me when our albums were mixed otherwise as long as the stereo field sounds right. We had someone remix a song once and they had the hi-hat and ride cymbal hard panned to the same side which drove me nuts. I don't recall the song (I think it was from Agony & Irony) and I'm pretty sure the mix was either changed or never released.

@@DerekGrantMusic wow, hats and ride on the same side would melt my head as well. Thanks the insight! I have my vinyls running through my interface to an input monitored track in Pro Tools and I’ll flip the pans to get drummers perspective. It shouldn’t bother me as much but it does!

@paulrwlnd That's interesting about your audio setup, I'll have to try flipping some of my favorite recordings to see if it bothers me at all. I've done something similar when creating stereo spreads from mono recordings, but it's not quite the same thing.

@@DerekGrantMusic in theory it shouldn’t affect anything tonally and it never bothered me if a guitar part was one side or the other. I’m running JBL 708P’s into the JBL intonato room calibration unit and a Focusrite Red 16 line so most stuff sounds great anyway. Got MSIT vinyl recently and I was playing it this morning, love the drum sound on that album. Finding time to listen is the challenge these days!

Fine is top tier Derek Grant!

@trainspotter360 I used double bass for some of the Suicide Machines stuff, but mainly for Thoughts of Ionesco, Gyga, and the Vandals - never with Alkaline Trio.

@ColinSlippers All of it. I made the tough decision to leave the band after I finished tracking drums for the album.

@@DerekGrantMusic I had a strange feeling it was you, the drums are just so good. I love the heavier snares, one of the best albums that has came out in years. Great job dudes.

Amazing idea. Please do that.